Ah, I guess that could be the case. It just doesn’t seem to function well if the server isn’t running perfectly smoothly 100% of the time.
I’ve also forwarded my suggestion to the GP thread here, if you guys feel like adding to that at all, or correcting anything I’ve said wrongly XD
Minecraft packets are extremely small. You would literally 100,000 users joining and leaving constantly to effect the network. Your hardware would break first.
Maybe not copying and pasting from google to look smart. Yeah, that would be great.
We don’t mean it needs to affect the network to be a DoS. DoS = Denial of Service, and even if it’s only affecting service with the Minecraft server, then I’d still think it qualifies.
You are mistaken. You know how sometimes when you join bukkit.org a page shows up saying “checking your browser please wait.” What cloudflare is doing is scanning your browser for a 7 layer attack. Like I said before a 7 layer attack is basically an application that opens webpage after webpage of a website causing it to slowdown to a crawl speed or even crash.
What part is copy pasted? And i would like to say that if multiple minecraft users attempt to join and leave the server all at once you would still have lots of lag from the software end of things. I’m afraid you may not had considered that though.
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I would like to further expand on performance being the main issue because some servers won’t have the capacity to keep up with the requests in high volume.
That sounds like a layer 7 attack specifically for web browsers though, and they’re not specifically for web browsers : /
Now you’re resorting to personal attacks? At least if he had gotten it from google, he’d have a source for his arguments. There’s no need to call him out for using a resource. At this point, I’m starting to think you’re just a troll trying to waste our time.
Yes, because that is the only purpose of a 7 layer attack! Why can no one understand that? Or can some people just not be wrong?
the distributed portion of DDoS means that it’s not coming from a single machine, it’s coming from a swarm of a machines that are expendable and in a quantity large enough that they would cause the server’s “hardware” to break first
You seem to have missed the point of ‘layer 7’, It doesn’t imply ‘web browser’, it implies ‘Application’ as in the Application layer of the OSI model. It’s entirely justified to think that the web browser isn’t the only application in existence. If a ‘layer 7 DoS attack’ was only for web browsers, why wouldn’t it be called a ‘web browser attack’?
I’m aware thats what it means. I have 3 servers, making it a DDoS attack
Yes that is right, but it can’t be used to target the minecraft server, because the minecraft server isn’t an application.
I’m sure im not the only one but does this seem to say he has servers that he uses to commit DDoS attacks?
Where the hell did you get that idea? Minecraft is an application being on a server or client : / It still handles data in accordance to the OSI model as well. Scratch that, I should say: it interfaces with protocols that handle the data in accordance with the OSI model.
@olife373 Agreed XD
Of course i’m admitting to that. I’m a networking technician for a minecraft hosting company. I have to test networks all the time for mitigation.
Definition of Application. Please refer to Application in Science.
Please read the definition in full, Minecraft is covered under “communications software”
Also refer to Application in Technology.
@antiroot @OffLuffy I’m done arguing with you guys. If you can find a way to hit down a minecraft server with a true 7 layer attack, I will give you all a cookie. Have a nice day.
Well its not illegal if you have proper authority to do so and no one has implied that you have not.
However any further reply’s on this subject is irrelevant to the posts subject matter.
Ide like to say after brushing up on the OSI model and what different attacks were comprised of I believe a layer 7 attack is possible based on your example above. If a legitimate user logs in thus pretending to be legitimate, and logs out and repeats this process it would count as a layer 7 attack because it ties up the application by making multiple but unnecessary login requests. However this is fairly easy to circumvent as it has already been done in the form of plug-ins.
Edit: but still possible.