How Will You Install Plugins?

AJPirate · January 12, 2015, 4:35pm

So I know that Sponge is going to be a Forge Core mod (correct?). So, when the actual server comes out, how will you install plugins? Do you just put it in the forge server mods folder? Or will Sponge generate a new folder?

Can someone please tell me?

BitByte · January 12, 2015, 4:44pm

If I’m correct, I believe they will probably be installed in their own folder.

This is just what I believe I remember it to be, don’t take it as anything more than a guess right now.

AJPirate · January 12, 2015, 4:52pm

Okay, thanks! This seems like a good way to do it. I don’t think it would be very good to have to put them in the mods folder, xD.

boformer · January 12, 2015, 4:52pm

It depends on the implementation.

I would like to see separate folders for mods, plugins, configs and worlds.

thomas15v · January 12, 2015, 4:55pm

I am afraid this isn’t the case, if you look to the current implementation plugins are registered as FML mods. Also I remember from the first implementation versions, that the testplugin had to be installed in the mods folder. In some way it does make sense, why would you make a second class loader if forge already has one.

https://github.com/SpongePowered/Sponge/blob/master/src/main/java/org/spongepowered/mod/plugin/SpongePluginContainer.java

EDIT: yep: Sponge/SpongeMod.java at 797bcb444566d22613ef96d85c628ee24779eac6 · SpongePowered/Sponge · GitHub

Someone has to pull a request to forge to define a custom mod-container directory . And whe have our plugins directory back ;).

AJPirate · January 12, 2015, 7:19pm

Hmm. It does make sense in a way for them to be in the mods folder. I just think it might be easier to manage if they were in seperate folders. One for mods and one for plugins. That way you wouldn’t have to look all around the folder for mods and plugins. But, eh, I’m fine with either one, really.

CodedStingray · January 12, 2015, 9:21pm

Oh that is interesting.
I always thought Sponge is gonna get a “plugin”-folder like Bukkit.
I kinda dislike teh idea of Sponge plugins not being separated from Forge mods. On the otehr hand it may open up new possibilities…

Inscrutable · January 13, 2015, 12:41am

From the SpongeDocs:

~~https://docs.spongepowered.org/en/latest/users/plugins/~~

2017 UPDATE: https://docs.spongepowered.org/master/en/server/management/plugins.html

In order to install plugins, place them into the “mods” folder of your game or server directory.

I hope that helps. Remember to check the Docs first!

AzureusNation · January 13, 2015, 1:07pm

this is going to depend on what implementation you use of the Sponge API

AJPirate · January 13, 2015, 3:07pm

There’s gonna be different implementations? Are they just like, versions?

BitByte · January 13, 2015, 4:21pm

Forge is the officially supported implementation, however other server software from other people, such as glowstone or granite, will implement sponges API later on.

AJPirate · January 13, 2015, 4:26pm

Ahhh, I see. Thanks.

progwml6 · January 13, 2015, 5:36pm

you will NOT be getting a “plugin” folder back

TBotV63 · January 13, 2015, 5:46pm

And why not? ^^

thomas15v · January 13, 2015, 5:55pm

Hmmm probably because the dependence on forge is to big.
@progwml6 if forge would made it possible to add an extra load folder to the class-loader, would sponge us that than?
I mean I agree with the mods folder thing. But this change will make a lot of sponge newbies spam this forum. And I am not looking forward to that xD.

simon816 · January 13, 2015, 5:59pm

I have proved that with the power of mixins, you can get FML to search and load plugins in a ./plugins folder, so that shouldn’t be an issue. (The mixin code I made is not create, however I will PR it if the sponge team are interested)

thomas15v · January 13, 2015, 6:08pm

pls gist it ;-;. I wanna see .

AJPirate · January 13, 2015, 6:10pm

Do you mean basically make a “renamed” mods folder so your mods would still go in there, or do you mean it would be possible to make them seperated?

Also, I’m not really sure about them going in the mods folder. I think it would be more organized with a whole new plugins one. But I guess because it depends on forge that’s not really the best way.

thomas15v · January 13, 2015, 6:17pm

That wouldn’t be possible. Because the moment that forge loads mixins it still loads from the mods folder. I just guess he changed the folder File to a List<file> and made the forge system iterate over it .

simon816 · January 13, 2015, 6:46pm

It’s simpler than that, FML has a ModDiscoverer class and I simply called findModDirMods(pluginDir)

github.com

MinecraftForge/FML/blob/1.8/src/main/java/net/minecraftforge/fml/common/discovery/ModDiscoverer.java

/*
 * Forge Mod Loader
 * Copyright (c) 2012-2013 cpw.
 * All rights reserved. This program and the accompanying materials
 * are made available under the terms of the GNU Lesser Public License v2.1
 * which accompanies this distribution, and is available at
 * http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.html
 *
 * Contributors:
 *     cpw - implementation
 */

package net.minecraftforge.fml.common.discovery;

import java.io.File;
import java.util.List;
import java.util.regex.Matcher;
import java.util.regex.Pattern;

import net.minecraftforge.fml.common.FMLLog;

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I’ll post a gist, but first I’ll make it better (I just wanted to see if it worked, but was not done properly)