Modded clients back then VS Modded clients now

[Gamecube762]

Continuing the discussion from Client mods analyzer:

I decided to create a new topic to prevent the last one from being off-topic. For those joining, this is about how the times has changed and client mods which use to be promoted by most servers are now treated as “Witch Craft! Banish it!! Kill it with Fire!!!”.

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@Gamecube762

I remember the days when everyone had modded clients and it was socially accepted on majority of server. Now if you see someone with a modded client, everyone treats it like witch craft and shuns them…

First server on MC I joined was a public survival, everyone, including the admins recommended me to get Zombe’s mod pack and even took the time to show me how to get it. Now, everyone is trying so hard to get rid or banish any modded client they see on a server…

@Engineer

So true. Why cant i use PvP cheats on PvP server? … Yeah. It really depends on what that modded client is doing.

@cartman2000

Having forms of x-ray mods on the client can be useful for admining purposes, like when you are copy/cut and pasting (moving) stuff around on the server, it can allow you to see if you got everything in the copy by allowing you to look for the players underground structures.

instanceof said:
Same here! First multiplayer server I went on, was in like 2012 or 2011. People helped me get zombe’s fly mod, which was really cool. Now, even talking about fly mods can get you banned on some servers. It’s rediculous but sort of understandable for some servers.

I started my server back in 2010 and had very loose rules when it came to flying on the server, as long as they didn’t set like 4-5x plus speed on it I was generally ok with it.

As for the rules that I have on my server, I usually allow flying on it, for my vip players(The more long term / trusted players on my server.). They can use either zombe or classic style flying by either classic mode or the /fly command for flight. I’d prefer them to use classic style flying over zombe though. However I wouldn’t really want them to use ore finding x-ray on the server.

I can still see how some server’s wouldn’t want their players to use fly on their servers, as it can lag their servers if they set a very high fly speed on their client, it’s possible to set a fly speed so high on zombe that you can fly 100 units in about 1-2 seconds flat, at least you can limit that speed by using classic style flying on the server. Also pregenerating the world on the server can help with lag if they happen to use fly in an area that otherwise wouldn’t have been generated.

@instanceof

Same here! First multiplayer server I went on, was in like 2012 or 2011. People helped me get zombe’s fly mod, which was really cool. Now, even talking about fly mods can get you banned on some servers. It’s rediculous but sort of understandable for some servers.

@anon55597060

I’m playing minecraft multiplayer since 2011 and I’ve always had the client modded. But always respecting the rules of the corresponding server wich I play on. Many servers have its rules and its own game style, included the one I manage. There are lots of servers, If someone doesn’t like to play with the rules and style one offers, then search another server, that simple.

Particularly, my server only allows to use those mods that doesn’t give you advantages over other players.

And now it continues below:

[SacredWaste]

The trends are changing, more “client” developers are using reflection and byte-code replacement. They also keep them more private. There are less “clients” out there that are free, and even less that are actually on the market than there was years ago.

[tebbenjo]

I remember for the longest time playing on the classic version (it was free) and the server I played on was heavily modded to be more like the payed version at the time.

[Gamecube762]

Seeing how older clients were more meant to enhance the experience, many servers fear clients now due to the amount of greifing that can be done. As greifing teams grew, more servers became fearful of clients due to how they had abilities to do much more than the average player.

Currently greifing teams are on the die now as security on servers is tight, so tight that some of them can mistake a vanilla client for a modded one due to the player’s intervention.

[SacredWaste]

It’s not that security is tight. It’s that people keep getting more and more reasons to quit this game. I personally am questioning it since Microsoft bought it, waiting to see which way they’ll bring us.

[OffLuffy]

I’m semi-certain that for most mods there will be a way to require it, but there will also almost certainly be a way to circumnavigate it by either having false mods that mimic the required one, or having mods that hide themselves from querying.

[Guichaguri]

Since Sponge is a forge mod, will be easy to force users to download a mod/modpack if they want to play.
I don’t know if this is the point, but i’m just saying…

[RobodudeMC]

As a server owner i certainly know how other people feel about not liking modded clients. My server rules allow modded clients as long as it doesn’t give a player an unfair advantage. I keep the standard NoCheat plugins on my server to try to keep it fair but there are players who get right past that and if I didn’t have any moderators watching the server they would probably get away with cheating.