the only thing i can say is it could be your ladder, which has only 1 rank on it
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Can you help me understand? Are not practical, I tried to do with OP Founder and Trainer after and it does not work, could you give an example? What commands? Please 
excuse my insistence but no one can help me?
Post your updated permissions.json, if i canât figure out the problem (which i think is ladders) then go post your permissions.json on the PEX thread
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Here: http://pastebin.com/Lt4kF9nP
Same problem made from scratch
apart from some incorrect permission nodes i see nothing wrong, there isnât a circular dependency anywhere there but what is the purpose of having a group that has no permissions at all?
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I wanted to do:
Group Founder
Group Admin
Group trainer
Trainer if someone from IP to some guy who comes in and from destroying everythingâŚ
They must enter all as trainer and then i change their group
They should have only those permissions
Do not really know how to do, i tried everything and i always reset file permission.json 
i hate to spoon-feed but here is an extract from my permissions.json, iâm not saying you should copy it but when you use the commands you should see something similar and not see the circular dependency thing
https://gist.github.com/MoeBoy76/9825eea4befd5cf44826
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ok, i try again.
Thanks again! 
Some commands work others do not
Only group Trainer, everything works Founder
Catchrate strange error
moesmagic.command? What plugins do you use? Not working HiddenpowerâŚ
yes i have some extra commands that i am testing to add to PixelExtras (i am the main Pixelmon sidemods dev)
which commands arenât working?
catchrate i am in the process of fixing (not on my priorities atm)
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Catchrate Error:
[SPOILER][10:51:43] [Server thread/ERROR] [Sponge]: Error occurred while executing command âcatchrate Machampâ for source EntityPlayerMP[âAn70ni0â/145, l=âworldâ, x=364,38, y=67,00, z=264,71]: com.pixelmonmod.pixelmon.database.DatabaseStats.GetBaseStats(Ljava/lang/String;)Lcom/pixelmonmod/pixelmon/entities/pixelmon/stats/BaseStats;
java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: com.pixelmonmod.pixelmon.database.DatabaseStats.GetBaseStats(Ljava/lang/String;)Lcom/pixelmonmod/pixelmon/entities/pixelmon/stats/BaseStats;
at com.pixelextras.commands.CatchRate.func_71515_b(CatchRate.java:45) ~[CatchRate.class:?]
at net.minecraft.command.CommandHandler.func_175786_a(CommandHandler.java:108) ~[ab.class:?]
at org.spongepowered.common.command.MinecraftCommandWrapper.tryExecute(MinecraftCommandWrapper.java:136) ~[MinecraftCommandWrapper.class:1.8-1521-2.1-DEV-748]
at org.spongepowered.common.command.MinecraftCommandWrapper.process(MinecraftCommandWrapper.java:122) ~[MinecraftCommandWrapper.class:1.8-1521-2.1-DEV-748]
at org.spongepowered.api.util.command.dispatcher.SimpleDispatcher.process(SimpleDispatcher.java:340) ~[SimpleDispatcher.class:1.8-1521-2.1-DEV-748]
at org.spongepowered.api.service.command.SimpleCommandService.process(SimpleCommandService.java:250) [SimpleCommandService.class:1.8-1521-2.1-DEV-748]
at net.minecraft.command.ServerCommandManager.func_71556_a(SourceFile:80) [cl.class:?]
at net.minecraft.network.NetHandlerPlayServer.func_147361_d(NetHandlerPlayServer.java:812) [rj.class:?]
at net.minecraft.network.NetHandlerPlayServer.func_147354_a(NetHandlerPlayServer.java:791) [rj.class:?]
at net.minecraft.network.play.client.C01PacketChatMessage.func_180757_a(SourceFile:37) [lu.class:?]
at net.minecraft.network.play.client.C01PacketChatMessage.func_148833_a(SourceFile:9) [lu.class:?]
at net.minecraft.network.PacketThreadUtil$1.onProcessPacket(SourceFile:53) [ih.class:?]
at net.minecraft.network.PacketThreadUtil$1.run(SourceFile:13) [ih.class:?]
at java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Unknown Source) [?:1.8.0_65]
at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(Unknown Source) [?:1.8.0_65]
at net.minecraftforge.fml.common.FMLCommonHandler.callFuture(FMLCommonHandler.java:714) [FMLCommonHandler.class:?]
at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.func_71190_q(MinecraftServer.java:656) [MinecraftServer.class:?]
at net.minecraft.server.dedicated.DedicatedServer.func_71190_q(DedicatedServer.java:364) [po.class:?]
at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.func_71217_p(MinecraftServer.java:598) [MinecraftServer.class:?]
at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.run(MinecraftServer.java:478) [MinecraftServer.class:?]
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source) [?:1.8.0_65][/SPOILER]
Hiddenpower does not exist completely and all other controls (Home etc.)
oh yes, i will add /hiddenpower from EVs/IVs into PixelExtras, all the other commands are from Sponge plugins
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Yes yes, I know that there are commands but do not work the same
My folder mods:
[SPOILER]CodeChickenCore-1.8-1.0.5.34-universal.jar
Core.jar
EssentialCmds-5.0.jar
InventoryTweaks-1.59-176.jar
ItemFinder-1.8-2.0.1-universal.jar
IVsEVs-1.7.10-3.2.0.jar
json-simple-1.1.1.jar
jsoup-1.8.3.jar
MinecraftGUI.jar
NotEnoughItems-1.8-1.0.5.82-universal.jar
permissionsex-sponge-2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar
PixelExtras-1.8-1.0-universal.jar
Pixelmon-1.8-4.0.8-universal.jar
spongeforge-1.8-1521-2.1-DEV-748.jar
TotalEconomy-v1.1.3.jar
TrainerCommands-1.8-2.0.2-universal.jar
WonderTrade-1.8-4.1.0-universal.jar
worldedit-forge-mc1.8-6.1.jar[/SPOILER]
Thatâs a rather old SpongeForge build:
spongeforge-1.8-1521-2.1-DEV-748.jar
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If you upgrade SpongeForge the server crashes
crash report: http://pastebin.com/WDpZbcja
i am using an older EssentialsCmds, adding essentialcmds. to those commands will make them work for you
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Your forge version is out of date. Update it to the recommended build and you should be good.
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So what do I do? Add commands Essentials Cmds?
How do I update Forge correctly?
I apologize for questions but are not practical 
âŚ
permissions for it are now in the format essentialcmds.tpa.use or essentialcmds.warps.use
SpongeForge is named like so:
spongeforge-<Minecraft version>-<Forge version>-<SpongeAPI version>-<build number>.jar
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